# VINs and Build Sheets
**URL:** https://59plymouth.net/t/vins-and-build-sheets/3135
**Category:** Tech Support
**Created:** [June 10, 2018, 10:42pm UTC](https://59plymouth.net/t/vins-and-build-sheets/3135 "2018-06-10T22:42:32Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
**Page:** 1
### Author:  [@GaryBitner](https://59plymouth.net/u/GaryBitner)
#### Post date: [June 10, 2018, 10:42pm UTC](https://59plymouth.net/t/vins-and-build-sheets/3135/1 "2018-06-10T22:42:32Z")
Hey, Matthew. Finally made it back to Ohio. The VIN on the Belvy is M256135251. Looking forward to whatever details you can find, thanks. Will – more MCM house photos coming soon!
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### Author:  [@Faulkner](https://59plymouth.net/u/Faulkner)
#### Post date: [June 12, 2018, 3:05am UTC](https://59plymouth.net/t/vins-and-build-sheets/3135/2 "2018-06-12T03:05:09Z")
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> Hey, Matthew. Finally made it back to Ohio. The VIN on the Belvy is M256135251. Looking forward to whatever details you can find, thanks.
Gary, I don’t know if Matthew responded to you privately - but if not, I’ll take a stab at it.
M - Model Year 1959
2 - V8
5 - Belvedere
6 - Detroit, Michigan
(1)35251 - the 35,251th Plymouth built in that plant.
Matthew - isn’t it the case that Detroit-built Plymouths had data plates on the cowl? Gary, do you have such a plate? It would yield additional information.
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### Author:  [@Matthew\_Keij](https://59plymouth.net/u/Matthew_Keij)
#### Post date: [June 12, 2018, 4:56pm UTC](https://59plymouth.net/t/vins-and-build-sheets/3135/3 "2018-06-12T16:56:00Z")
You beat me to it!
2 is Plymouth, V8!
They should have data plates. Try to get your build sheet from FCA too. If you get a good scan I can decode it
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### Author:  [@Faulkner](https://59plymouth.net/u/Faulkner)
#### Post date: [June 12, 2018, 7:03pm UTC](https://59plymouth.net/t/vins-and-build-sheets/3135/4 "2018-06-12T19:03:28Z")
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> Try to get your build sheet from FCA too. If you get a good scan I can decode it
Oh Noes! 👿 You used be be able to go [here](http://chryslergroupllc.extra.chrysler.com/company/Heritage/Pages/Historical-Services.aspx) to get it. But now that redirects to [here](http://chryslergroupllc.extra.chrysler.com/Pages/splash.aspx), with this message:
If you go to “Contact Us” at the bottom of that page, you see this message:
No mention of how to order! Does that mean you have to first mail/fax a request, wait for it to arrive, then mail/fax a form with a check?!?
Maybe I’ll try to call and find out what to do…
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### Author:  [@GaryBitner](https://59plymouth.net/u/GaryBitner)
#### Post date: [June 12, 2018, 8:32pm UTC](https://59plymouth.net/t/vins-and-build-sheets/3135/5 "2018-06-12T20:32:44Z")
Thanks, guys. Please excuse the stupid questions. Where is the cowl?
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### Author:  [@Faulkner](https://59plymouth.net/u/Faulkner)
#### Post date: [June 12, 2018, 8:41pm UTC](https://59plymouth.net/t/vins-and-build-sheets/3135/6 "2018-06-12T20:41:41Z")
Gary, the cowl is under the hood, and runs fender to fender horizontally. It’s the strip connected to the vertical firewall.
On my Maywood Plant (LA, California) built Plymouth, the data plate is on the passenger side of the cowl. There may be other places where it can be found - Matthew can advise.
Dan
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### Author:  [@william0431](https://59plymouth.net/u/william0431)
#### Post date: [June 12, 2018, 11:46pm UTC](https://59plymouth.net/t/vins-and-build-sheets/3135/7 "2018-06-12T23:46:34Z")
My two 59’s are both LA built and their data plates are on the passenger side of the cowl as well. 😃
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### Author:  [@Faulkner](https://59plymouth.net/u/Faulkner)
#### Post date: [June 13, 2018, 3:11am UTC](https://59plymouth.net/t/vins-and-build-sheets/3135/8 "2018-06-13T03:11:16Z")
I faxed the number for historical records this afternoon, but received no fax reply; so I called the number for FCA. The attendant gave me an email address to mail, so I did:
> From: Dan Morton
> Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2018 10:10 PM
> To: \> [danielle.szostak@fcagroup.com](mailto:danielle.szostak@fcagroup.com)
> Subject: Obtaining a Plymouth Build Card
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> Hello Danielle,
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> I was given your email address by an agent at FCA. I have a 1959 Plymouth Sport Fury. Can you tell me the procedure for ordering the build card?
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> Is there a form?
> Do you need any documentation besides the VIN?
> Is there a charge? If so, how do I pay – check, money order, etc.?
>
> Thanks
> Dan
Then just tonight, “Christopher Housecat Neopolitan” posted an inquiry about the very same thing on the Facebook Forward Look MoPar Network! Someone responded with [this link](https://customerconnect.custhelp.com/app/mobile/fiat/b2c_detail/a_id/17507), which - unlike the FCA webpage - lists Danielle’s email address:
😒 OK, I guess there’s more than one way to skin a cat. I’m hoping this comes down to someone getting a form with clear instructions about information needed and payment, in which case I will post it here.
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### Author:  [@william0431](https://59plymouth.net/u/william0431)
#### Post date: [June 13, 2018, 4:35am UTC](https://59plymouth.net/t/vins-and-build-sheets/3135/9 "2018-06-13T04:35:11Z")
I hope we can get a clear answer on this procedure, I would really like to get copy’s of my build cards if possible. I would really like to know more about my cars, I know my Sport Fury has been in SoCal all its life. The Savoy, I have no clue on other than I picked it up in Fresno and it had belonged to a retired Chrysler dealer mechanic from that area who passed away and his entire MoPar collection was sold at auction and I got it from the guy who got it at that auction. Interested to hear where they were they were sold.
Hopefully the process of getting build cards is fairly straight forward, does any one know who can decode them?? Matthew? ❓
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### Author:  [@Faulkner](https://59plymouth.net/u/Faulkner)
#### Post date: [June 13, 2018, 12:53pm UTC](https://59plymouth.net/t/vins-and-build-sheets/3135/10 "2018-06-13T12:53:49Z")
Matthew does, Fershur! There are some codes that are still lost in antiquity, I think…
Here’s an article that gives you the flavor, although it’s for ‘58 Imperials:
[http://imperialclub.org/Yr/1958/58PunchCard/index.htm](http://imperialclub.org/Yr/1958/58PunchCard/index.htm)
Matthew has cataloged and typed up much of the ‘59 data, he and I will publish an article about it in an upcoming Plymouth Owners Club Bulletin (although he doesn’t know it yet 😛 ).
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### Author:  [@Faulkner](https://59plymouth.net/u/Faulkner)
#### Post date: [June 14, 2018, 11:00am UTC](https://59plymouth.net/t/vins-and-build-sheets/3135/11 "2018-06-14T11:00:19Z")
This was recently posted on Facebook, in the Forward Look MoPar Network:
> The FCA Archives is happy to be able to provide you with a copy of the build card for your historic vehicle without charge. However, due to the volume of requests we receive and the modest staff that we have, we are unable to offer the decoding service and copied material that we have in the past. Please provide us with proof of ownership, i.e. a copy of the title or registration, and your mailing address and we will send you the build card.
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> We will, when possible, provide you with the original selling dealers name and city.
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> Thank you for contacting us and we hope that the build card information is helpful to you.
>
> Danielle Szostak-Viers
So that’s all there is to it - send a letter with a copy of your title to the address three posts up, and hope you get your build card before Carlisle 2019 😲😆
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### Author:  [@Matthew\_Keij](https://59plymouth.net/u/Matthew_Keij)
#### Post date: [June 14, 2018, 1:39pm UTC](https://59plymouth.net/t/vins-and-build-sheets/3135/12 "2018-06-14T13:39:25Z")
I know Chrysler does the area code and dealer code but that’s it. They don’t decode the build sheets anymore.
I know about a service that does it. It’s right here 
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### Author:  [@GaryBitner](https://59plymouth.net/u/GaryBitner)
#### Post date: [August 6, 2018, 1:59pm UTC](https://59plymouth.net/t/vins-and-build-sheets/3135/13 "2018-08-06T13:59:21Z")
Hi, guys. Sorry to be MIA for a few weeks; work has been crazy busy. Was back in Ohio over the weekend, found the cowl and snagged the info off the data plate. Here goes:
BODY NO
252 09652
TRM
311
PNT
XD
SCHEDULE
0714
SERIAL #
M256 135251
Appreciate whatever decoding you can do, thanks!
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### Author:  [@Matthew\_Keij](https://59plymouth.net/u/Matthew_Keij)
#### Post date: [August 6, 2018, 4:40pm UTC](https://59plymouth.net/t/vins-and-build-sheets/3135/14 "2018-08-06T16:40:22Z")
Body: 252 - V8 Belvedere, 2dr hardtop
Trm - interior color: 311 - grey
Pnt - Paint: XD - top first (X) iceberg white, body (D) Caribbean blue (spring special color)
Schedule - scheduled build date: 0714 - build July 14th 1959
Your VIN:
M - model year 1959
2 - Plymouth, V8
5 - Belvedere
6 - build in Detroit
1 - sequential number
35251 - 35251th Belvedere build at this plant
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### Author:  [@Matthew\_Keij](https://59plymouth.net/u/Matthew_Keij)
#### Post date: [August 6, 2018, 4:42pm UTC](https://59plymouth.net/t/vins-and-build-sheets/3135/15 "2018-08-06T16:42:29Z")
Pics!
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### Author:  [@GaryBitner](https://59plymouth.net/u/GaryBitner)
#### Post date: [August 6, 2018, 7:53pm UTC](https://59plymouth.net/t/vins-and-build-sheets/3135/16 "2018-08-06T19:53:42Z")
Awesome! Thanks, Matthew. I can see the Caribbean Blue in a couple of spots, like where the trunk key is engaged.
Does anyone know if the grey fabric can be had anywhere? She’s got seat covers on her now and they’re a little rough.
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### Author:  [@william0431](https://59plymouth.net/u/william0431)
#### Post date: [August 8, 2018, 12:50am UTC](https://59plymouth.net/t/vins-and-build-sheets/3135/17 "2018-08-08T00:50:04Z")
That is a beautiful color combo! I love those spring special colors. The material is all available from SMS Fabrics. They have all the materials and patterns and can provide you material or the entire finished interior… BUT!!
Be forewarned! They have a LOT of bad reviews, They are notorious for taking your money and making you wait up to 2 years for your materials or finished interior! they are very quick to send samples and take your order/money then give excuses on why its delayed. On the flip side there are a lot of customers who have nothing but amazing things to say about them and their service… I plan on using them and taking my chances but be sure and read their reviews before deciding. I have seen their products and they all look top quality to me. Other then them I don’t know of any one else that offers these materials.
any one know of any other sources out there?
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### Author:  [@GaryBitner](https://59plymouth.net/u/GaryBitner)
#### Post date: [August 8, 2018, 1:31pm UTC](https://59plymouth.net/t/vins-and-build-sheets/3135/18 "2018-08-08T13:31:19Z")
Wow, WIll. Thanks for the lead. Read several of the reviews and it looks like they’re good when the fabric is in stock. I’ll call up there and let you know how it goes. Looks like Canby, Oregon is just south of Portland, so mebbe a quick trip out there would be more productive. I have a great guy in Florida to actually do the work, which I’d like to get done this coming winter, ahead of Carlisle in 2019.
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### Author:  [@Faulkner](https://59plymouth.net/u/Faulkner)
#### Post date: [August 8, 2018, 3:46pm UTC](https://59plymouth.net/t/vins-and-build-sheets/3135/19 "2018-08-08T15:46:43Z")
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> I have a great guy in Florida to actually do the work, which I’d like to get done this coming winter, ahead of Carlisle in 2019.
I was hoping you would say that 😃
Just sayin’, Dick.
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### Author:  [@GaryBitner](https://59plymouth.net/u/GaryBitner)
#### Post date: [August 20, 2018, 9:26pm UTC](https://59plymouth.net/t/vins-and-build-sheets/3135/20 "2018-08-20T21:26:26Z")
Must say I’m impressed with SMS Auto Fabrics so far. Check out what arrived in today’s mail, less than a week after I asked them to send it.
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