# More Savoy (or any '59) parts needed

**URL:** https://59plymouth.net/t/more-savoy-or-any-59-parts-needed/305
**Category:** Wanted
**Created:** [November 9, 2004, 7:10pm UTC](https://59plymouth.net/t/more-savoy-or-any-59-parts-needed/305 "2004-11-09T19:10:45Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author: ![forwardlooklunatic](https://59plymouth.net/user_avatar/59plymouth.net/forwardlooklunatic/32/13_2.png) [@forwardlooklunatic](https://59plymouth.net/u/forwardlooklunatic)
#### Post date: [November 9, 2004, 7:10pm UTC](https://59plymouth.net/t/more-savoy-or-any-59-parts-needed/305/1 "2004-11-09T19:10:45Z")

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hey everybody check out my savoy at this site or at forwardlook-the front fenders don’t look like that any more. They are really getting bad. Tried to slow rust down with rust-oleum but it is like outbreak- it won’t stop. Does anybody make repro 59 front fender sections? I don’t think but thought i’d ask anyway. Also my clutch linkage broke, and no one knows what i’m talking about when i ask for the part. SOMEBODY HELP!!

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### Author: ![Faulkner](https://59plymouth.net/user_avatar/59plymouth.net/faulkner/32/21944_2.png) [@Faulkner](https://59plymouth.net/u/Faulkner)
#### Post date: [November 10, 2004, 11:54am UTC](https://59plymouth.net/t/more-savoy-or-any-59-parts-needed/305/2 "2004-11-10T11:54:22Z")

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Mike, what rusted out – the “eyebrows”? These guys have 'em in stock:

> **[For Sale P-S](http://www.showcars-bodyparts.com/forsaleP-S.html)**

I also see them from time to time on eBay, I’ll keep a lookout.

Also, can you identify the clutch linkage part? There are several folks around with “New Old Stock”. If you can’t describe it, perhaps I’ll scan a pic tonight and you can tell me from that. e.g., [http://www.vvap.com](http://www.vvap.com) allows you to plug in a partno, and see if they have inventory. I also have some lists of parts I’ve accumulated over the years…

Let’s see if we can’t help you out.

Dan

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### Author: ![forwardlooklunatic](https://59plymouth.net/user_avatar/59plymouth.net/forwardlooklunatic/32/13_2.png) [@forwardlooklunatic](https://59plymouth.net/u/forwardlooklunatic)
#### Post date: [November 12, 2004, 8:45am UTC](https://59plymouth.net/t/more-savoy-or-any-59-parts-needed/305/3 "2004-11-12T08:45:26Z")

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went to their site- would the eyebrows be “top of headlight panel”? or would i have to call… the best i can do with the linkage part is this: it is a cylinder with a “pin” on one end (seems to be pressed into the bell housing and on my car is broken off), and the other end tapers off, then attached is a ball with two metal halves forming a bearing. A ball joint, i would guess. This is because the shaft this part slides into is semi-rotating, but not mounted level. I greatly appreciate the help.

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### Author: ![Faulkner](https://59plymouth.net/user_avatar/59plymouth.net/faulkner/32/21944_2.png) [@Faulkner](https://59plymouth.net/u/Faulkner)
#### Post date: [November 12, 2004, 12:49pm UTC](https://59plymouth.net/t/more-savoy-or-any-59-parts-needed/305/4 "2004-11-12T12:49:08Z")

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Mike – “top of headlight panel” would have to be it, they’re notorious for rusting out. Best to call, tho.

I’ll scan a pic of the clutch from my parts manual tonight, we can narrow down what you’re looking for.

Dan

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### Author: ![Faulkner](https://59plymouth.net/user_avatar/59plymouth.net/faulkner/32/21944_2.png) [@Faulkner](https://59plymouth.net/u/Faulkner)
#### Post date: [November 12, 2004, 11:46pm UTC](https://59plymouth.net/t/more-savoy-or-any-59-parts-needed/305/5 "2004-11-12T23:46:42Z")

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Mike, here’s an explosion diagram of the clutch. Can you identify from this diagram the part you need?

Dan

 ![clutch.jpg](https://59plymouth.net/uploads/default/original/1X/1af4d540e2526467b9bc3932734502a91801b8a8.jpeg)

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### Author: ![system](https://59plymouth.net/uploads/default/original/3X/e/a/eaeaa8fc0640498381f256106be5232d32385d01.jpeg) [@system](https://59plymouth.net/u/system)
#### Post date: [November 15, 2004, 9:44am UTC](https://59plymouth.net/t/more-savoy-or-any-59-parts-needed/305/6 "2004-11-15T09:44:18Z")

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sorry, computer died. is that a '59 manual?? it looks more like my buddys '54 setup (my clutch pedal “hangs” from under the dash instead of sticking out of the floorboards). I don’t see what i need on there… were the linkages the same if that’s and older drawing? If i had to make an educated guess i’d say my part would go in place of bracket (6-53-5) and bearing (6-52-11). Mike

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### Author: ![forwardlooklunatic](https://59plymouth.net/user_avatar/59plymouth.net/forwardlooklunatic/32/13_2.png) [@forwardlooklunatic](https://59plymouth.net/u/forwardlooklunatic)
#### Post date: [November 15, 2004, 9:48am UTC](https://59plymouth.net/t/more-savoy-or-any-59-parts-needed/305/7 "2004-11-15T09:48:35Z")

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whoops, helps if you log on

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### Author: ![Faulkner](https://59plymouth.net/user_avatar/59plymouth.net/faulkner/32/21944_2.png) [@Faulkner](https://59plymouth.net/u/Faulkner)
#### Post date: [November 15, 2004, 11:52am UTC](https://59plymouth.net/t/more-savoy-or-any-59-parts-needed/305/8 "2004-11-15T11:52:33Z")

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Oops, quite right. The pic I originally posted was for a truck! Sorry 'bout that. I’ve fixed the post with the correct picture.

Dan

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### Author: ![forwardlooklunatic](https://59plymouth.net/user_avatar/59plymouth.net/forwardlooklunatic/32/13_2.png) [@forwardlooklunatic](https://59plymouth.net/u/forwardlooklunatic)
#### Post date: [November 15, 2004, 7:06pm UTC](https://59plymouth.net/t/more-savoy-or-any-59-parts-needed/305/9 "2004-11-15T19:06:07Z")

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lol it’s ok. the part i need is “stud” 6-52-10.  
Mike

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### Author: ![Faulkner](https://59plymouth.net/user_avatar/59plymouth.net/faulkner/32/21944_2.png) [@Faulkner](https://59plymouth.net/u/Faulkner)
#### Post date: [November 15, 2004, 8:07pm UTC](https://59plymouth.net/t/more-savoy-or-any-59-parts-needed/305/10 "2004-11-15T20:07:41Z")

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OK – those are catalog numbers that are listed. When I get home tonight, I’ll look up the part number – then there are places we can check for the part.

BTW, this looks the same as the part on my old '55 with standard trans. I still have that parts book, I’ll compare the numbers. The guy I sold the car to may still have that part – I’ll ask.

BTW2 – when I redid my clutch, I replaced those bushings on both ends with Teflon ones. You can get them from Andy Bernbaum.

Dan

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### Author: ![Faulkner](https://59plymouth.net/user_avatar/59plymouth.net/faulkner/32/21944_2.png) [@Faulkner](https://59plymouth.net/u/Faulkner)
#### Post date: [November 16, 2004, 12:55am UTC](https://59plymouth.net/t/more-savoy-or-any-59-parts-needed/305/11 "2004-11-16T00:55:12Z")

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OK, here’s what I know: The part is definitely a new part for '59. It does not cross check with the '55 part I could get my hands on.

Furthermore, there are two parts. Here’s how it’s listed in the book for Plymouths:

 ![clutch_parts.JPG](https://59plymouth.net/uploads/default/original/1X/fa3cb86853edb7fe034e0e91fa0aa61c5afc7a83.jpeg)

(The funny symbol in front of the “1829” denotes that the part has not appeared in any previous parts book.)

Now, Mike has a 318 – but I don’t know if it is a V-800 (or, even if it was available in the Savoy) – the special power pack for the 318. Is that considered high performance? Or, is only the Golden Commando high performance?

I don’t know. But, the answer to that question will determine which part Mike needs, and then we can figure out where to get it. I’m going to send a note to Ed Eckerson, he will undoubtably know.

Dan

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### Author: ![forwardlooklunatic](https://59plymouth.net/user_avatar/59plymouth.net/forwardlooklunatic/32/13_2.png) [@forwardlooklunatic](https://59plymouth.net/u/forwardlooklunatic)
#### Post date: [November 16, 2004, 7:14am UTC](https://59plymouth.net/t/more-savoy-or-any-59-parts-needed/305/12 "2004-11-16T07:14:16Z")

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i would not consider the v-800 (2 bbl) to be high performance, and i doubt anyone else would either, the reason being i’m not that lucky or rich!! however, i did install a 4-bbl intake and carb so maybe the torque is too much and snapped it?? i doubt that either, but something to consider… the car still has single exhaust.  
Mike

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### Author: ![Faulkner](https://59plymouth.net/user_avatar/59plymouth.net/faulkner/32/21944_2.png) [@Faulkner](https://59plymouth.net/u/Faulkner)
#### Post date: [November 16, 2004, 11:41am UTC](https://59plymouth.net/t/more-savoy-or-any-59-parts-needed/305/13 "2004-11-16T11:41:35Z")

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Mike, were their ears buzzing at showcars? The headlight eyebrows are up on eBay!

> **[Pardon Our Interruption...](https://www.ebay.com/splashui/challenge?ap=1&appName=orch&ru=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fitm%2F4504797306%3FViewItem%3D%26rd%3D1%26item%3D4504797306%26category%3D42611&iid=60038622-e9d9-4276-ab9e-a9ff31622f0f&iim=FMTk5Ljc&iia=sTI1MC4yXF&iiz=yrVMTAuMjA3mZS)**

> **[Pardon Our Interruption...](https://www.ebay.com/splashui/challenge?ap=1&appName=orch&ru=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fitm%2F4504797301%3FViewItem%3D%26rd%3D1%26item%3D4504797301%26category%3D42611&iid=c33847fc-7069-4a94-b6a4-885e06f8b6bd&iim=PMTk5Ljt&iia=cdI1MC4yUh&iiz=ZVsMTAuMjA3CJy)**

Also, the left inner panel:

> **[Pardon Our Interruption...](https://www.ebay.com/splashui/challenge?ap=1&appName=orch&ru=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2Fitm%2F4504797294%3FViewItem%3D%26rd%3D1%26item%3D4504797294%26category%3D42611&iid=02fb423e-6d6a-411d-b3ba-978a5ad22787&iim=ZMTk5LjE&iia=WPI1MC4yNM&iiz=eYQMTAuMjA3ZVA)**

Still poking around, for clutch part 1829 377…

Dan

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### Author: ![Faulkner](https://59plymouth.net/user_avatar/59plymouth.net/faulkner/32/21944_2.png) [@Faulkner](https://59plymouth.net/u/Faulkner)
#### Post date: [November 16, 2004, 1:49pm UTC](https://59plymouth.net/t/more-savoy-or-any-59-parts-needed/305/14 "2004-11-16T13:49:29Z")

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Sorry, Mike. I keep coming up empty with my parts sources. It might be time to try some salvage yards…

If you want, I can put you in contact with the guy with my old '55. The part number is different, but perhaps you can adapt it? I dunno.

Sorry I couldn’t be of more help. If I come across the owner of a '59 salvage car, I’ll ask.

Dan

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### Author: ![forwardlooklunatic](https://59plymouth.net/user_avatar/59plymouth.net/forwardlooklunatic/32/13_2.png) [@forwardlooklunatic](https://59plymouth.net/u/forwardlooklunatic)
#### Post date: [November 16, 2004, 7:26pm UTC](https://59plymouth.net/t/more-savoy-or-any-59-parts-needed/305/15 "2004-11-16T19:26:37Z")

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well, i know a guy who has a 59 parts car, but the odds that it is 3 spd on tree are pretty lousy. I will check… are the teflon bushings replacing the part i need? How can i get hold of Andy Bernbaum? Why why why did they have to put those eyebrows on ebay??? i’m not ready to buy yet!! hopefully they have more-as soon as i get done building my new computer i will be ready to order. Thanks again for your help! Mike

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### Author: ![Faulkner](https://59plymouth.net/user_avatar/59plymouth.net/faulkner/32/21944_2.png) [@Faulkner](https://59plymouth.net/u/Faulkner)
#### Post date: [November 16, 2004, 8:20pm UTC](https://59plymouth.net/t/more-savoy-or-any-59-parts-needed/305/16 "2004-11-16T20:20:33Z")

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> [@forwardlooklunatic](#):
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> are the teflon bushings replacing the part i need? How can i get hold of Andy Bernbaum?

The teflon bushings are part 6-52-11 in the diagram. They weren’t teflon originally, of course, and surely are worn out.

Here’s a previous post about Andy:

> [@Andy Bernbaum's](http://59plymouth.net/t/andy-bernbaums/186/1):
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> Despite the problems I’ve had with getting the right parts (two different flavors, depending on whether early or late in model year), I have to recommend Andy. I’ve gotten a lot of weatherstripping from him, and when it’s right, it’s perfect. The look and feel is professional. 1-617-244-1118 [http://www.oldmoparts.com](http://www.oldmoparts.com) Dan

You can find info on other vendors in that same category. Good luck…

Dan

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### Author: ![forwardlooklunatic](https://59plymouth.net/user_avatar/59plymouth.net/forwardlooklunatic/32/13_2.png) [@forwardlooklunatic](https://59plymouth.net/u/forwardlooklunatic)
#### Post date: [November 17, 2004, 8:02am UTC](https://59plymouth.net/t/more-savoy-or-any-59-parts-needed/305/17 "2004-11-17T08:02:51Z")

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oh no, that 2-piece bearing is fine. Well, i’ll keep you posted. Thanks again- Mike

PS i forgot to mention i need a cigarette lighter, too!! have looked on ebay all this year, searched at carlisle; i have the worst luck ever.

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### Author: ![system](https://59plymouth.net/uploads/default/original/3X/e/a/eaeaa8fc0640498381f256106be5232d32385d01.jpeg) [@system](https://59plymouth.net/u/system)
#### Post date: [November 17, 2004, 4:48pm UTC](https://59plymouth.net/t/more-savoy-or-any-59-parts-needed/305/18 "2004-11-17T16:48:56Z")

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dan, have u tried the guy in NE WA state for parts?(his business name eludes me at the moment) Also Murray Park in Ohio..

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### Author: ![Fins59](https://59plymouth.net/user_avatar/59plymouth.net/fins59/32/8_2.png) [@Fins59](https://59plymouth.net/u/Fins59)
#### Post date: [November 19, 2004, 3:59am UTC](https://59plymouth.net/t/more-savoy-or-any-59-parts-needed/305/19 "2004-11-19T03:59:38Z")

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Wow,$260 “buy it now” for a pair of front fender caps. A few years ago I picked up a pair for $50. A guy had a pair on ebay. I was high bidder at $38 - reserve not met - he emailed me after auction saying I could have them for $50. He lived up near Duluth, Minnesota. I drove about 200 miles up there and picked them up. I used them on my other '59 - a 4 door Fury. So hang in there, a deal like that may come along for you.

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### Author: ![system](https://59plymouth.net/uploads/default/original/3X/e/a/eaeaa8fc0640498381f256106be5232d32385d01.jpeg) [@system](https://59plymouth.net/u/system)
#### Post date: [November 19, 2004, 7:16pm UTC](https://59plymouth.net/t/more-savoy-or-any-59-parts-needed/305/20 "2004-11-19T19:16:54Z")

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well, i sure hope you’re right!! seems like i oughtta get whole fenders for that much, but i guess they are hard to come by, and lots are needed. Any one who knows of any nice ones for sale please let me know!!

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