Hello; What color should the fury sedan 1959 2 barrel “318” be? The previous owner had blue with silver valve covers,I think it is wrong,also was the tranny painted,if so what color? Have pics Thanks Mark
I think you will hear the consensus from the Group is
Block=silver
Valve covers= argent
Transmission and bellhousing=unpainted
Air cleaner=red
Thanks again,I knew it did’nt look right. Mark
Mopar engine BLUE on Plymouths didnt come into use until the 1960’s, as I recall ![]()
Mine was blue and the air cleaner is black, I was told by my father that had a 59 plymouth said his 318 was blue,
So I painted blue with a black air cleaner.
This topic was covered here a little while ago. Going by the factory brochures (even though some brochures showed red blocks), and numerous observations of original unmolested blocks, it was agreed here that the '59 Ply 318 blocks were silver and argent, w/red air cleaner.
I think the '59 Desotos had blue blocks and black aircleaners.
Canada-built cars may have been painted differently.
I think I will do the block silver,I even heard of some black,they seem to have been all over the place back then,not real consistant,maybe the mix of dodge,chrysler,desoto,etc.What color is “argent”? A shade of gold? Thanks for the replys. Mark
Rod Stewart and Argent?
But seriously, argent is a dull silver. It is generally accepted on this List that the valve covers, wheel rims and front airscoop should all be painted argent. It is available in spray cans, at better stocked Mopar dealerships.
Besides the Air Scoop (Valance) the splash pan is also painted Silver Argent.
Dick.
Hello All
In asking about an 1959 Plymouth A-318 I am reading about De Soto’s which never used this engine -
Black which was an Imperial Division and Chrysler Division color used for their engines. The BB/ RB’s
use Turq after they used Black and in the last of the 60’s … more like the 70’s Chrysler Blue was used.
The use of Argent or in some vehicles an high temp Alum on The Valve Tappet Covers is more of an
easy color to use because it is photo friendly.
The Chrysler Silver was sprayed on the complete assembled “long block” and the Brackets and other
like items are all an shade of black.
Is that Washington I see standing up in the row boat instead of hanging on as they cross the river ???
Other words it is your engine and just make it appear as you think it should be.
Rodger & Gabby
COS
Roger; Good advise thanks!!!
Just to be clear, the latter advice came from Rodger in Colorado, not me (Roger in Washington). Rodger is right in saying turquoise was the factory color for 318s in the 1960’s.
I apologise if my mentioning of the Desoto brand got any of you believing that 318s were used in Desotos.
The same goes for the Imperial brand.
The person asked what color the engine SHOULD be. To me, that means he wanted to know what color the factory painted the 318s. Obviously folks are totally free to paint their engines any color their heart desires! But if re-sale is ever considered, it’s my opinion that non-factory colors will lower the value. ![]()
Hola Again
In the asking of paint on The Transmission part of your question … I have only seen some
over-spray on The Bell Housing part of the transmission in The Poly Era.
Rodger & Gabby
COS
Roger; I’m going to paint the bellhousing with the engine,the torque converter will be on as will the housing.That is the way it;s going back in,the tranny will be waiting for it.The rebuild is a long way off,I have a very good builder[does alot of race engines] but mine is a stock build,was told it could be 2 or 3 months off.But that is ok,it is not going anywhere anyway,it will give me time to do the front end and various other issues.It keeps me busy over the long,long,long winter.I’m sending the tranny out next week but will get that back much sooner.Interior/paint etc might be a few years down the road,make it a driver first. THANKS MARK
Mark
Only take this as an $$$ hint.
The A-318 engine is just an engine. This means it is nothing special to do for several Milk Crate’s
of A-318 items are the same part number used in LA-318’s to LA-360’s. The Local High School
Auto Shop can do the same Engine Repair and Assembly as Ed’s Speed Shop at an much lower cost.
If The High School Auto Shop makes you worry then any local to you Machine Shop. They all
should have some type of “if it breaks in 90 days or don’t work policy”.
Rodger & Gabby
COS
Roger;Let me put things into perspective;I would like to put the car close to original as it was,color interior,exterior paint,engine color,etc.etc.etc.The place that is doing the motor is very good but slow,I have a price for a stock build $1800.00-$2000.00,The rebuild kit is about half of that,a “crate” 318 is about $1600.00,However the motor would come from some other vehichle,I would like to keep what was in it to go back in it.I am not doing an extensive fame off,I can not afford it,just would like to give it the attention it needs,make it presentable,and have some fun with it.The car has been neglected,but has good “bones”.I am completely capable of doing the build myself after the machining (I have done this before} but have other issues to address with the car.Once the machining is done {cylinder hone/bore,cam bearing install,heads with hardened seats[unleaded friendly] crank turned,it is not that much more for the shop to assemble because it is all there.I am not eccentricly fussy,and certainly did not hit the lottery,but in this hobby “some money is going to be spent”.As I have said before I always appreciate any and all input.I love cars from the fifties,in fact I also have an unrestored 1955 Buick[runs like a top but did not when I got it.} I like original,or as they were, as opposed to tricked,it is just my taste. The schools in my area do not do the auto shop thing,I wish they did,it would keep them off the streets,and off computers which is what i’m doing now!!! THANKS FOR LISTENING Mark
Just a note: double-check your spelling of proper names before you post. I think you wish to direct your previous reply to “Rodger”, a.k.a. Rodger and Gabby, not me, Roger.
This is “Roger”, and I agree with you that your engine should be painted 1959 factory color.
Roger;Sorry,you are right I meant Rodger,Thanks Mark
Thought I’d share this with the forum. My cry for help in a previous posting was referred to. This is as far as I’ve got. For info I’ve cleaned the transmission and bell housing and leaving them with the metal finish - no paint. My engine (318) started out blue, I’m pleased with the result so far. Valve covers not yet fitted but are the same silver as the sump. Guy
Wow!! Looks great!!! I can see what mine will look like.Is the oil pan and valve covers the silver argent? I have alot of the engine area cleaned up and am going to paint that as well [black] after I re-do the suspension and steering components.I was also going to leave the tranny as is,got it all cleaned up and is getting rebuilt,has the usual,bad bands,clutches,shaft o rings[petrified].Thanks for the pic!!! p.s. I am still confused about a possible missing part that I think goes into the e-brake cable entrance, I was cleaning it up and a small tubular piece of rubber came out. THANKS MARK




