# Caveat Emptor

**URL:** <https://59plymouth.net/t/caveat-emptor/842>\
**Category:** eBay\
**Created:** [October 27, 2006, 11:23am UTC](https://59plymouth.net/t/caveat-emptor/842 "2006-10-27T11:23:59Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 4\
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**Author:** ![Faulkner](https://59plymouth.net/user_avatar/59plymouth.net/faulkner/32/21944_2.png) [@Faulkner](https://59plymouth.net/u/Faulkner)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2006, 11:23am UTC](https://59plymouth.net/t/caveat-emptor/842/1 "2006-10-27T11:23:59Z")

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Ed Eckerson posted this on the [59plymouth] mailing list:

> Sent: Friday, October 27, 2006 7:09 AM  
> To: \> [59PLYMOUTH@59sportfury.net](mailto:59PLYMOUTH@59sportfury.net)  
> Subject: [59plymouth] BE AWARE!  
>   
>   
> Hello List
> 
> I noticed an interesting WHITE GOLDEN COMMANDO SPORT FURY on ebay this morning.
> 
> BE AWARE that the S/N indicates a ‘NEWARK DELEWARE’ built BELVEDERE V8
> 
> ED ECKERSON  
> LI NY

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**Author:** ![sportfury1959](https://59plymouth.net/user_avatar/59plymouth.net/sportfury1959/32/11_2.png) [@sportfury1959](https://59plymouth.net/u/sportfury1959)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2006, 2:10pm UTC](https://59plymouth.net/t/caveat-emptor/842/2 "2006-10-27T14:10:52Z")

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Ed just confirmed my doubts this morning. I didn’t realise or check the S/N but it seemed a little strange to me that this good looking car (obviously a real Sport Fury) did have the Belvedere Steering wheel and no holes in the clove box. Here is what else caught my attention:

- Looking at the floor pans it seems that this car has been professionally restored. Compared to the engine compartment and the transmission oil pan the floor pans are almost too good to be 47 years old. (Correct me if I’m wrong)
- The odometer shows only 5.031 miles – maybe it already flipped over. But then again the car looks too good for an unrestored 105.031 miles car.
- The colour of the steering column matches to the steering wheel, but not to the dashboard
- The “Fury” sing between the rear seats is not there

About the rest: Everything little detail that distinguishes a real Sport Fury is there. Maybe an old SF was the donor to this Belvedere?

Stefan

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**Author:** ![rogerh](https://59plymouth.net/user_avatar/59plymouth.net/rogerh/32/9_2.png) [@rogerh](https://59plymouth.net/u/rogerh)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2006, 4:14am UTC](https://59plymouth.net/t/caveat-emptor/842/3 "2006-10-28T04:14:45Z")

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The VIN is the tip-off..If, as Ed Eckerson determined, the VIN says it is a Belvedere, then the Motor Vehicle Department will call it a Belvedere.

The Ebay car displays a STANDARD steering wheel, typical of Belvederes. All Sport Furies had the DELUXE steering wheel. The Sport Fury also came equipped with dash pad, and dash plaque. The car has no power brakes, but I suppose you could order it that way. As for the missing SCRIPT LOGO (Fury) at the rear package tray, the restoration shop couldnt reproduce it, it would seem. I agree with the analysis of the floor pans..they are not original..but hten they disclosed that information (sort of) in the listing. The 361 Golden Commando engine was an option in models other than Sport Fury.

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**Author:** ![Faulkner](https://59plymouth.net/user_avatar/59plymouth.net/faulkner/32/21944_2.png) [@Faulkner](https://59plymouth.net/u/Faulkner)\
**Post date:** [November 15, 2006, 12:20pm UTC](https://59plymouth.net/t/caveat-emptor/842/4 "2006-11-15T12:20:59Z")

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Hmmm… Could this SF and the one Alex Lehr refers to here:

> [@Another '59 SF for sale!](http://59plymouth.net/t/another-59-sf-for-sale/859/1):
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> I just got off the phone with Alex Lehr. What a kewl guy! Anyway, here’s an email he posted to the mailing list. Anyone interested? Dick, you don’t have enough SF’s, do you? astonished Dan From: Alexander Lehr [mailto:\> [geminimanor@earthlink.net](mailto:geminimanor@earthlink.net)\> ] Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 6:45 PM To: 59 mailing list Subject: [59plymouth] \* 59’ Sport Fury for sale. Hi. Cosmic Happenings? As some of you know, I have several 59’ Plymouths (2 Savoys, 1 - 4 Door Fury, 1 Suburban Station Wa…

…be one and the same?

Dan
