# '59 SF's for sale?

**URL:** <https://59plymouth.net/t/59-sfs-for-sale/849>\
**Category:** '59 Plymouths for Sale\
**Created:** [November 3, 2006, 12:53pm UTC](https://59plymouth.net/t/59-sfs-for-sale/849 "2006-11-03T12:53:21Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Faulkner](https://59plymouth.net/user_avatar/59plymouth.net/faulkner/32/21944_2.png) [@Faulkner](https://59plymouth.net/u/Faulkner)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2006, 12:53pm UTC](https://59plymouth.net/t/59-sfs-for-sale/849/1 "2006-11-03T12:53:21Z")

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Here are two notes from Gary Grossich – the first is a personal correspondence, and the second is a recent post to the Forward Look mailing list. Check it out!!!

> [@Gary](#):
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> From: Sandy Grossich [mailto:[grossich@adelphia.net](mailto:grossich@adelphia.net)]  
> Sent: Friday, August 26, 2005 9:34 PM  
> To: [dan@59plymouth.net](mailto:dan@59plymouth.net)
> 
> Hi Dan  
> I was on your site today also. I was going to register but couldn’t figure it out. Still not the best with computers. My 59 convertible was featured in Special Interest Autos several years ago. It was in a drive report against the 59 Chevy and Ford and of course the Mopar came out on top!! It is a mostly original, copper car with power windows and seat along with Mirrormatic. It is a 318 car. I also have a black 318 car with the orangey red interior, a white with copper interior 361 Golden Commando car and a white with blue 318 car. These are complete cars in storage needing restoration. We also have 2 59 wagon parts cars, 2 Sport Fury hardtop parts cars, a 59 Fury 2 door hardtop builder and a Savoy 4 door sedan for parts. Also have lots of great California rust free parts. If you can give me some pointers on getting registered I’d love to join the registry.  
> Regards, Gary & Sandy

> [@Gary](#):
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> From: Forward Look Mopar Discussion List  
> [mailto:[L-FORWARDLOOK@LISTS.PSU.EDU](mailto:L-FORWARDLOOK@LISTS.PSU.EDU)] On Behalf Of Sandy Grossich  
> Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 11:42 PM  
> To: [L-FORWARDLOOK@LISTS.PSU.EDU](mailto:L-FORWARDLOOK@LISTS.PSU.EDU)  
> Subject: [FWDLK] Mopar Cars & Parts
> 
> Hello Forwardlookers,
> 
> Unfortunately it appears my father and I will be losing our storage yard in the next several months. We have a bunch (more than any sane person should have!!) of Mopars from the 1930s thru the 1960s, with the majority of them being from the forward look years of  
> 55 thru 61. For years we have collected some to restore and saved others from the crusher because other people lost their storage and I guess its now our turn! Anyway, we have quite a few rust free California project cars and parts cars which we will be selling over the next few months. I don’t have a list but would be more than happy to answer specific parts or car inquires. If interested please e- mail me off list @ [grossich@adelphia.net](mailto:grossich@adelphia.net). Thanks!!
> 
> Gary

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**Author:** ![Faulkner](https://59plymouth.net/user_avatar/59plymouth.net/faulkner/32/21944_2.png) [@Faulkner](https://59plymouth.net/u/Faulkner)\
**Post date:** [November 3, 2006, 5:42pm UTC](https://59plymouth.net/t/59-sfs-for-sale/849/2 "2006-11-03T17:42:12Z")

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By the way, Google lists this as contact info for Gary:

Gary Grossich (909) 874-0985  
19184 Santa Ana Ave,Bloomington, CA 92316

> [@Gary](#):
>
> > -----Original Message-----  
> > From: Sandy Grossich [mailto:[grossich@ADELPHIA.NET](mailto:grossich@ADELPHIA.NET)]  
> > Sent: Friday, November 03, 2006 12:19 PM  
> > To: [morton@rad.upenn.edu](mailto:morton@rad.upenn.edu)  
> > Subject: Re: [59plymouth] RE: [FWDLK] Mopar Cars & Parts
> > 
> > Hi Dan,  
> > Yes, we have 2 59 Sport Fury HT’s and 1 Fury HT. All 3 are good  
> > builders. We also have 2 other Sport Fury HTs, but they’ve been  
> > parted out pretty heavily over the years. There are another 6 or so  
> > 59 Plymouths for parts in that storage yard. Thanks for the help!!
> > 
> > Regards, Gary

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**Author:** ![rogerh](https://59plymouth.net/user_avatar/59plymouth.net/rogerh/32/9_2.png) [@rogerh](https://59plymouth.net/u/rogerh)\
**Post date:** [November 12, 2006, 5:47pm UTC](https://59plymouth.net/t/59-sfs-for-sale/849/3 "2006-11-12T17:47:16Z")

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I contacted Gary about these cars, and he doesnt HAVE to sell them now, so if you want any of them, you’ll have to be pro-active and make him an offer he can’t refuse, or wait until he posts them with a definite asking price.

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**Author:** ![Faulkner](https://59plymouth.net/user_avatar/59plymouth.net/faulkner/32/21944_2.png) [@Faulkner](https://59plymouth.net/u/Faulkner)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2006, 12:10pm UTC](https://59plymouth.net/t/59-sfs-for-sale/849/4 "2006-12-11T12:10:23Z")

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Got this message just yesterday from Gary. Contact information for him is earlier in this thread – see below for pictures.

> [@Gary Grossich](#):
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> Hi Dan,  
> We finally dug out the white 59 Sport Fury. It’s a 361 Commando car with power windows. I was wondering if I could e-mail pics and post on the web site. It’s a good builder with some rust and a few missing parts. The rust probably would probably be considered minimal for a mid west or east coast buyer. The body itself is in pretty nice condition and all the factory tinted glass is intact. We’re going to ask $6000.00 for it. Thanks for your help!!  
> Regards, Gary

 ![1959 Ply10.jpg](https://59plymouth.net/uploads/default/original/1X/0f42f22c90258468ced2a475904fc17775685c1d.jpeg)  
 ![1959 Ply11.jpg](https://59plymouth.net/uploads/default/original/1X/622a575dd52c9eeeca32124b31264066a7fe9fda.jpeg)  
 ![1959 Ply13.jpg](https://59plymouth.net/uploads/default/original/1X/4197d79806876679ec709dab9a6068be80d9ce21.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Faulkner](https://59plymouth.net/user_avatar/59plymouth.net/faulkner/32/21944_2.png) [@Faulkner](https://59plymouth.net/u/Faulkner)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2006, 12:12pm UTC](https://59plymouth.net/t/59-sfs-for-sale/849/5 "2006-12-11T12:12:34Z")

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more pix…

 ![1959 Ply16.jpg](https://59plymouth.net/uploads/default/original/1X/402407be057e1232d7a364250cbc47060297c5fa.jpeg)  
 ![1959 Ply17.jpg](https://59plymouth.net/uploads/default/original/1X/d22e05f0623b2d2c8381390944da9d0acf19f7b2.jpeg)  
 ![1959 Ply18.jpg](https://59plymouth.net/uploads/default/original/1X/7bd535bd18756db456db554241f28813507647ea.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![Faulkner](https://59plymouth.net/user_avatar/59plymouth.net/faulkner/32/21944_2.png) [@Faulkner](https://59plymouth.net/u/Faulkner)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2006, 12:14pm UTC](https://59plymouth.net/t/59-sfs-for-sale/849/6 "2006-12-11T12:14:47Z")

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and three more. I have more pix, email me privately if you wish to see.

Dan

 ![1959 Ply22.jpg](https://59plymouth.net/uploads/default/original/1X/c3bc9654127b8f085f9d45dcb3ddb2b7abab36ec.jpeg)  
 ![1959 Ply26.jpg](https://59plymouth.net/uploads/default/original/1X/7a06fbfc57361e70430f93dd5f90cf7289634146.jpeg)  
 ![1959 Ply28.jpg](https://59plymouth.net/uploads/default/original/1X/a599a819a3cf6a27aea0ef2382a242f99ade2b54.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![rogerh](https://59plymouth.net/user_avatar/59plymouth.net/rogerh/32/9_2.png) [@rogerh](https://59plymouth.net/u/rogerh)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2006, 1:40pm UTC](https://59plymouth.net/t/59-sfs-for-sale/849/7 "2006-12-11T13:40:50Z")

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a sport fury with powerflite? maybe someone switched controls..

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**Author:** ![savvy59](https://59plymouth.net/user_avatar/59plymouth.net/savvy59/32/22_2.png) [@savvy59](https://59plymouth.net/u/savvy59)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2006, 2:03pm UTC](https://59plymouth.net/t/59-sfs-for-sale/849/8 "2006-12-11T14:03:17Z")

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and all along I thought it was me that could not count!!!

What about price - is it a fair deal?

I have seen much worse.

Curt in MD

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**Author:** ![savvy59](https://59plymouth.net/user_avatar/59plymouth.net/savvy59/32/22_2.png) [@savvy59](https://59plymouth.net/u/savvy59)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2006, 12:46am UTC](https://59plymouth.net/t/59-sfs-for-sale/849/9 "2006-12-12T00:46:39Z")

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After I read this post that I wrote - it sure did not sound right.

What I meant to say is am “I the only one counting four push buttons here?”

I did not realize a 361 would be coupled with a two-speed???

Can this be true?

This sure seems like a really complete and pretty intact car for the price.  
Be a shame to have this one parted out.

Sorry if my post sounded offensive. 😊

Curt in MD where it was warm today!!!

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**Author:** ![rogerh](https://59plymouth.net/user_avatar/59plymouth.net/rogerh/32/9_2.png) [@rogerh](https://59plymouth.net/u/rogerh)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2006, 2:34am UTC](https://59plymouth.net/t/59-sfs-for-sale/849/10 "2006-12-12T02:34:30Z")

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Ahhh, what a question. Of course it all depends on the condition. The car looks like it was abandoned out in the weather for many years. We don’t know if mice have eaten the wiring, if rust has destroyed the p/w switches..if the dash has been irreversibly “modified” by fire, vermin, kids, etc..  
the engine is missing water pump, fan, air cleaner, generator? and more. we dont know if it is seized. The gas tank is likely ful of crud..brakes will have to be re-done. A new interior costs $3500 and up.  
Some good things to say..all glass appears to be there and decent, the swivel seats are there, the SF side trim appears to be complete. We cant see if the floors are rusty(..they said it has rust somewhere…)  
I’d say the asking price is high by one third.  
I sure like the look of the 1960 Ply cvt showing in the backround of one of the pictures.

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**Author:** ![Faulkner](https://59plymouth.net/user_avatar/59plymouth.net/faulkner/32/21944_2.png) [@Faulkner](https://59plymouth.net/u/Faulkner)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2006, 2:55am UTC](https://59plymouth.net/t/59-sfs-for-sale/849/11 "2006-12-12T02:55:05Z")

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For those itchin’ to see more pix – here’s a folder full of 'em:

_[snip - sorry, I seem to have misplaced this folder 😕 -Dan]_

Enjoy!

Dan

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**Author:** ![rogerh](https://59plymouth.net/user_avatar/59plymouth.net/rogerh/32/9_2.png) [@rogerh](https://59plymouth.net/u/rogerh)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2006, 3:52am UTC](https://59plymouth.net/t/59-sfs-for-sale/849/12 "2006-12-12T03:52:29Z")

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After viewing the additional pictures, I credit the Grossiches for their honesty by showing the “real” condition of the car..rusted-out floors, rust- out at the “dog-legs”, rust-out at the trunk lid and also around the back window. My guess is the trunk quarters have been patched. All the wiring has to be toast. The side trim is missing pieces and is damaged in places. The interior pot metal is pitted due to long exposure to humidity. There are no p/w switches to be seen. Strangely, the car LOOKS like a Sport Fury, but has powerflite tranny and a single front-mounted antenna. The hood and trunk scripts are missing. I’d like to see the VIN Tag close up. I’d value the car at $3k, tops.

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**Author:** ![sportfury1959](https://59plymouth.net/user_avatar/59plymouth.net/sportfury1959/32/11_2.png) [@sportfury1959](https://59plymouth.net/u/sportfury1959)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2006, 9:46am UTC](https://59plymouth.net/t/59-sfs-for-sale/849/13 "2006-12-12T09:46:32Z")

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In my oponion, looking on several small things, this seems to be a real SF. The tranny might have been changed later for a 2 speed. But of course only the VIN tag will tell for sure.

Stefan

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**Author:** ![rogerh](https://59plymouth.net/user_avatar/59plymouth.net/rogerh/32/9_2.png) [@rogerh](https://59plymouth.net/u/rogerh)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2006, 1:39pm UTC](https://59plymouth.net/t/59-sfs-for-sale/849/14 "2006-12-12T13:39:05Z")

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I agree. I’m sure you could get a SF with front fender antenna instead of dual rear antennae, but it is hard to imagine a customer ordering one with Powerflite. What would be the point?

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**Author:** ![sportfury1959](https://59plymouth.net/user_avatar/59plymouth.net/sportfury1959/32/11_2.png) [@sportfury1959](https://59plymouth.net/u/sportfury1959)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2006, 3:50pm UTC](https://59plymouth.net/t/59-sfs-for-sale/849/15 "2006-12-12T15:50:49Z")

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Well, I imagined that the original torque flite tranny broke and maybe the former owner already had, or could get, a cheap power flite at that time. The front fender antenna was normal on SF. My SF also has one in the right front fender. But the rear double antennas are an option, probably even an aftermarked option. Correct me if I’m wrong.

Stefan

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**Author:** ![Ron\_Keij](https://59plymouth.net/user_avatar/59plymouth.net/ron_keij/32/6_2.png) [@Ron\_Keij](https://59plymouth.net/u/Ron_Keij)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2006, 6:23pm UTC](https://59plymouth.net/t/59-sfs-for-sale/849/16 "2006-12-12T18:23:41Z")

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> [@sportfury1959](#):
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> But the rear double antennas are an option, probably even an aftermarked option. Correct me if I’m wrong.
> 
> Stefan

Stefan,

I have to correct you, the double rear antennas were a real factory option. If you are interested I have one booklet left with all the factory options and packages and it even includes the prices. If you are interested you I will send it to you, but remember the prices are in it and they will make you feel bad. Compared to what you pay now it was almost for free, a mirrormatic was about $800 cheaper than what Í’ve seen on Ebay recently 😢

Ron

 ![options booklet 6.jpg](https://59plymouth.net/uploads/default/original/1X/8e69243d00d5aff0b03b2a984c1058ab53c9e818.jpeg)

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**Author:** ![rogerh](https://59plymouth.net/user_avatar/59plymouth.net/rogerh/32/9_2.png) [@rogerh](https://59plymouth.net/u/rogerh)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2006, 2:18am UTC](https://59plymouth.net/t/59-sfs-for-sale/849/17 "2006-12-13T02:18:40Z")

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I dont have the standard/options list readily available, maybe Matthew could clear this up when he has time. I still say the car needs a LOT of work…Grossichs said they were losing storage room, wanted to keep the best for themselves and sell off the lesser quality cars.

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**Author:** ![sportfury1959](https://59plymouth.net/user_avatar/59plymouth.net/sportfury1959/32/11_2.png) [@sportfury1959](https://59plymouth.net/u/sportfury1959)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2006, 4:42pm UTC](https://59plymouth.net/t/59-sfs-for-sale/849/18 "2006-12-13T16:42:34Z")

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Ron,

Thank you for that information. This list is really interesting. I guess I could discuss for hours now, but on thing called my attention, - the remote control mirror (outside) How did they look? Was this the remote Mirror of the Chrysler cars?

Stefan

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**Author:** ![Ron\_Keij](https://59plymouth.net/user_avatar/59plymouth.net/ron_keij/32/6_2.png) [@Ron\_Keij](https://59plymouth.net/u/Ron_Keij)\
**Post date:** [December 13, 2006, 5:24pm UTC](https://59plymouth.net/t/59-sfs-for-sale/849/19 "2006-12-13T17:24:13Z")

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Stefan,

The remote control mirror looks like… the drivers side mirror on my car 😆 It looks like the normal two strut mirror abd between the struts is the cable to control it. The cable is fastened just below the light switch and you can adjust the mirror from there. I looked for pictures but I don’t have a good one right now, it is on my to do list for next spring!

Ron

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**Author:** ![sportfury1959](https://59plymouth.net/user_avatar/59plymouth.net/sportfury1959/32/11_2.png) [@sportfury1959](https://59plymouth.net/u/sportfury1959)\
**Post date:** [December 14, 2006, 8:54am UTC](https://59plymouth.net/t/59-sfs-for-sale/849/20 "2006-12-14T08:54:44Z")

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Ron,

I know the mirror on your car. It’s the one with the rectangular base. I always thaought that was the Chrysler mirror and wans’t for the Plymouth, but now I know better.

Stefan

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